Saddle

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by Ian Jackson, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. Ian Jackson

    Ian Jackson Guest

    My old crappy leftover saddle finally got too bad so I replaced it
    with one from a friend's junk box. The new one is unsatisfactory
    because it's (a) a bit too wide (b) made of some kind of rubbery
    substance which has a very high coefficient of friction with my
    clothes (!)

    Is there some way to buy a new saddle which doesn't involve a lot of
    trial and error ? I don't think I'm particularly fussy and I don't
    particularly want to spend a lot of money (not because I don't have
    the money, but because different saddles don't seem very different to
    me and ordinary cheap ones have generally served me well).

    Lots of you will recommend a Brooks I know, but I don't want one
    because apparently I'd have to prat about covering it up when parking
    outdoors and care about whether I scraped it against things and so on.
     
    Ian Jackson, Apr 14, 2011
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  2. Ian Jackson

    David Guest

    All depends on your bottom but in my opinion the most comfortable saddle in
    the world is the Selle Italia SLR xp.
    You can get them from about £40 upwards if you shop around.
    Fantastic both on and off road as they are thin and hard until you hit a
    bump and then they flex.

    D
     
    David, Apr 14, 2011
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  3. Ian Jackson

    Paul - xxx Guest

    I chose my current saddle by borrowing mates' saddles to try .. not
    always with their agreement! ;)

    It feels solid as a solid thing when pressing it by hand, but is pretty
    damn comfortable when cycling on it .. though longest I've done on this
    one is about 6 hours and four days running with about 4 hours in the
    saddle off-road.

    I'd suggest to steer clear of cheap (or expensive probably) Gel saddles
    ... I found them comfy to sit on in a shop, but hell after only 30
    minutes or so riding.
     
    Paul - xxx, Apr 14, 2011
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  4. Some Specialized dealers allegedly have a piece of memory foam you
    sit on and measure the resulting dents, which turns into a recommendation
    of which width of their saddle models is most likely to fit you.

    Other than that there are only two methods that I've heard of, neither
    of them very helpful as suggestions:

    Use trial and error, but get lucky with an early trial.

    Have used trial and error before, and avoid it in future by buying the
    same saddle again. Can't be relied on if you want the saddles for
    different types of riding, and if you want to replace a worn out
    saddle in spite of being reasonably satisfied with the durability
    of the old one, it probably isn't made any more.
     
    Alan Braggins, Apr 14, 2011
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  5. Ian Jackson

    Simon Brooke Guest

    Agreed. All my bikes now have Selle Italia SLRs, because I tried one
    once and fell in love with it. It's as hard as a very hard thing, but
    it fits me personally, and that's what matters.

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    Simon Brooke, Apr 14, 2011
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  6. Ian Jackson

    Simon Brooke Guest

    Specialized (the brand) dealers have a device which measures the width
    of your sit-bones - it's basically a callibrated gell-filled pad you
    sit on. It will tell you how wide to get your saddle, which is the key
    thing.

    Leather cover is good - doesn't chafe or wear clothing as much as
    plastics. Minimal or no padding is good.
    You don't have to prat about. Getting excessively wet and staying wet
    for a long time isn't good for them, but they're pretty sturdy,
    especially if you give them an occasional rub with proofide. However if
    it's going to be left out regularly that's an argument against any
    leather covered saddle.

    My beef with Brooks saddles is they're extraordinarily heavy - apart
    from that they're very good saddles.

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    Simon Brooke, Apr 14, 2011
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  7. Ian Jackson

    Paul - xxx Guest

    I think mine's a Selle Italia, with some nice embroidery on the rear
    and kevlar 'wings' ... BICBW .. can't remember .. ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Apr 14, 2011
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  8. Ian Jackson

    Adam Funk Guest

    I don't worry about scraping my mediocre saddle, but I have finally
    found a use for hotel shower caps: keeping the saddle dry so my bum
    doesn't get wet when I get back on a bike after locking it outdoors in
    the rain. (I might've picked this tip up here.)
     
    Adam Funk, Apr 14, 2011
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  9. Ian Jackson

    thirty-six Guest

    That's the nature of them, if you want an all day comfortable saddle,
    select a Brooks in the thickest hide. There are many other areas of a
    bicycle which can do with reducing weight for increased performance,
    but the saddle isn't a high priority.
     
    thirty-six, Apr 14, 2011
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  10. Ian Jackson

    Marc Guest

    **** ME!!!

    There is finally something that we agree on!
     
    Marc, Apr 14, 2011
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  11. Ian Jackson

    Marc Guest

    Why do always ask for advice but decide before hand that you aren't
    going to accept it?

    But annyhooows If you don't want a cover a Brooks, don't; and if you
    aren't bothered about scraping it, then don't worry, and buy a Brooks.
     
    Marc, Apr 14, 2011
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  12. Ian Jackson

    kimble Guest

    The recumbent seat version of this is a waterproof rucksack cover.


    Kim
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    kimble, Apr 14, 2011
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  13. Ian Jackson

    Simon Brooke Guest

    Disagree. My Selle Italias are exactly as comfortable for me as the
    Brooks Professionals they replace, and they way 135 grammes each as
    opposed to 670 grammes each for the Brooks. What matters is fit. The
    good thing about Brooks is that they will adjust themselves (a bit) to
    fit you. A saddle that doesn't do this needs to be a very good fit from
    new.


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    Simon Brooke, Apr 15, 2011
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  14. kimble twisted the electrons to say:
    Though the simpler version is a Ventisit cushion that the water will run
    straight through and drilling a hole in the seat base to ensure there's
    no puddle forming underneath!
     
    Alistair Gunn, Apr 15, 2011
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  15. Ian Jackson

    kimble Guest

    I think I'd quite like one of those, at least in the summer. I've
    currently got a closed-cell foam cushion, which while extremely
    comfortable (and lovely and warm in the winter) is completely
    non-breathable.

    It's actually fine in the rain, just swipe the worst of the water off
    before sitting on it. You're going to have a wet back anyway, so the
    rest doesn't matter...


    Kim.
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    kimble, Apr 17, 2011
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  16. kimble twisted the electrons to say:
    It's important to drill the hole before sticking the ventisit down!
    Don't ask me how I know this! :)
    <nods> I think the Ventisit is definitely "The Way Forwards"(TM) as a
    general rule but having ridden on closed-cell I agree it's easy enough to
    swipe the water off before sitting.
     
    Alistair Gunn, Apr 17, 2011
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  17. Ian Jackson

    thirty-six Guest

    The Brooks and Selle's fit me well, but the Selle's give me a sweaty
    backside when it is hot and I've been a few hours in the saddle. This
    never happens with a Brooks.
     
    thirty-six, Apr 19, 2011
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  18. Ian Jackson

    thirty-six Guest

    No chance! Do it yourself if the farm can't help you.
     
    thirty-six, Apr 19, 2011
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