Road Works, Country Style

Discussion in 'Road Bikes' started by Peter Grange, Sep 11, 2010.

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    Peter Grange Guest

    A little country lane on my usual circuit sprouted "Road Closed" signs
    and cones all across the road (that's 4 cones, I said it was little) a
    few days before the Bank Holiday weekend. In true cyclist fashion I
    moved one of the cones and cycled through. There were a couple of
    steel plates in the road but nothing else. I repeated this on several
    other days until last Thursday, when there was a man with a JCB parked
    across the road.

    "You won't get through there " he said. Usual conversation ensued
    about getting through yesterday, so he invited me to look. He was
    right. Huge hole the complete width of the road, maybe six feet deep
    and ten feet long. No sign of cables or pipes at the bottom though, so
    I asked him what the problem was.

    "Road subsiding due to a badger set under the road" he said. It seems
    it's the eighth one he'd done this year, and he has another one next

    It was a new one on me, but seemingly not too rare down 'ere in the
    Peter Grange, Sep 11, 2010
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  2. I hope the snake did not get you. Did you collect the mushrooms?

    Just zis Guy, you know?, Sep 11, 2010
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    Only in Kenya.
    Simon Brooke, Sep 11, 2010
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    Tim Hall Guest

    My nephew got taken out by a speeding badger in Richmond Park last
    week. Bust his arm.

    For some reason I found it funny.
    Tim Hall, Sep 12, 2010
  5. I always, when going past one of those, ponder how lovely it would be if
    these signs were put up with any concern for non-motorists, distinguishing
    "passable by pedestrians" from "impassible by pedestrians". Sometimes
    you're looking at a 10km round trip to distinguish a few heaps of gravel
    from a collapsed bridge.
    David Damerell, Sep 13, 2010
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    Naqerj Guest

    Though I bet the closure notice said "A through route will be maintained
    for cyclists and pedestrians"; they nearly always do.
    Naqerj, Sep 14, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    What was it driving?
    I'll get my coat.
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    OK, this remark probably seemed funny to a lot of people, and I'm
    probably being a party pooper for pointing out that it isn't funny.

    Badgers are large animals. They're also one of the few British wild
    animals that instead of being camouflaged have high visibility markings.
    Finally, relative to other large British wild animals, they're
    *relatively* slow moving. Human children with the same body weight as a
    badger move faster - and more unpredictably. All in all, badgers are not
    at all hard to avoid hitting.

    If you can't miss a badger, you can't miss a child. Anyone who hits a
    badger really shouldn't be driving.
    Simon Brooke, Sep 16, 2010
  9. Firstly, I think Tim was talking about someone on a bike. A badger
    is probably going to be OK - look at dogs being hit on the TdF.

    Secondly, a badger can easily outpace most people (children or not).
    Badgers can get up to about 30 km/h for very short distances. However
    they do usually move more slowly - and slow down even more when it is

    Finally, badgers are protected so deliberately hitting one with a car
    (or even a bike) would be a criminal offence.
    Andy Leighton, Sep 16, 2010
  10. Except children don't generally hide in the bushes, in the dark and then
    jump in front of you on country roads (or even in Richmond Park).

    Having been startled by a badger that thankfully did not decide to cross
    the road I can see exactly how you could hit a badger without ever being
    in any real danger of hitting a child as they can "appear from nowhere".

    If you are suggesting that all travel should be done at a speed where
    this can never happen then that does not seem to me to be reasonable.

    Chris Gerhard, Sep 16, 2010
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    Clive George Guest

    You missed out the ability of a badger to pop out from a hedgerow and
    cover the distance between it and your wheels in very little time at
    all. That's significantly more unpredictable than a human child.

    Thus what you wrote isn't actually true.

    I happily followed a badger for fifty yards or so last night -
    fortunatley not one which had popped out. Running along at about 10mph
    I'd guess - faster than many children.
    This is not true.
    Clive George, Sep 16, 2010
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    Ben C Guest

    Any child who doesn't know not to step out into the road in front of
    cars should not be wandering around in the streets unsupervised.

    It's harder to get this message across to the Badger community.
    Ben C, Sep 16, 2010
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    kimble Guest

    I had a near-miss with a badger on a night ride last month: I was
    crawling up a hill at about 3mph, when something that appeared to be a
    large football bounced out of the bushes and down the bank to my left,
    passed in front of my bike (at the sort of range that would have
    resulted in a collision if I'd been on an upright rather than a SWB
    recumbent), then in true sonic-the-badger style did a double-backflip,
    straightened itself out and scampered for the bushes on the opposite
    side of the road.

    If you can't avoid them at 3mph, there's really not much you can do.

    Children, unless seriously distracted (which I accept does occasionally
    happen), are thankfully somewhat more intelligent in their interactions
    with vehicles.

    kimble, Sep 16, 2010
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    Tim Hall Guest

    Ding! The lad was on the family (1) bike. No lights. Brother badger
    appears from the evening gloom. Either hits or nearly hits the bike
    (or vice versa). Nephew goes over the bars, landing on his elbow.

    A&E the next day he got berated by the Crool Nurse for not wearing a
    certain piece of cycling headgear.

    (1) Only 1 bike between the five of them. "What would Uncle Tim say?"
    asked my niece.
    Tim Hall, Sep 16, 2010
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    A few years ago Andy Seviour was taken out of the Denmead 600 by a speeding
    badger. One minute riding happily along a Wiltshire back-road, the next
    waking up in the A&E department of Swindon general.

    OTOH Peter Turnbull is the only rider I know who has been taken off his bike
    by a badger that was already dead :)
    Dave Larrington, Sep 27, 2010
  16. I know someone who was taken out by a dead rabbit on the second zig zag
    going down White Down near Dorking.

    Come to think of it he was also taken out by a sleeping policeman.

    Chris Gerhard, Sep 27, 2010
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    James Guest

    I've been taken out by rocks, and you don't get much deader or dumber
    than that. Dead leaves can be positively sneaky in the way they heap
    themselves over kerbs too...

    James, Sep 27, 2010
  18. Are you sure it wasn't the snake getting caught in his front wheel?

    Just zis Guy, you know?, Sep 28, 2010
  19. Also badgers are a lot smaller and harder to spot.

    Just zis Guy, you know?, Sep 28, 2010
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