Reinterpreting classic Dutch bicycles

Discussion in 'General Cycling' started by Simon Brooke, Jan 19, 2011.

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    Simon Brooke Guest

    Just stumbled across two really elegant thoughtful designs by a young
    Dutch designer, Wytze van Mansum. I'm impressed by both of these (but a
    little sceptical about the efficiency of the transmission on the
    Dutchess)

    http://goo.gl/RWIEb

    http://goo.gl/OaSm

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    Simon Brooke, Jan 19, 2011
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    They definitely look good. I like the folding bars used as a lock and
    for once like the look of something (crank/transmission) without caring
    much if it's functional or efficient. ;)
     
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    Martin Guest

    The dutchess looks good. I like the way the rack/rear mudguard have been
    made part of the frame structure. 50kg luggage capacity is quite impressive.

    I think having a fully enclosed drivechain makes up for transmission
    losses. Unless you are a sports cyclist or fast commuter, then you
    probably won't notice much. The real advantage is long term reliability,
    especially in adverse weather.
    That said, I would not want to have to replace the chain, unless the
    cover comes off completely.
     
    Martin, Jan 19, 2011
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    I certainly agree that a full chaincase is highly desirable on a
    utility bike, and integrating the chaincase with the chainstay also
    seems very sensible. It's bending the chain (?or belt?) through such
    tight radii that bothers me a bit.

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    PhilD Guest


    Eeewww, the see through bottom bracket looks seriously weird.

    Is it shaft drive?

    PhilD
     
    PhilD, Jan 19, 2011
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    Peter Clinch Guest

    I rode an R&M a few years ago with something similar (another sort of
    hi-tech take on a Dutch bike, can't remember the name). Sporty it
    wasn't but it didn't seem to matter at the time.

    But looking at their current model line-up it looks like they've gone
    for more conventional enclosed transmissions since.

    Pete.
     
    Peter Clinch, Jan 20, 2011
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    David Guest

    No, belt drive.
     
    David, Jan 20, 2011
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