Post Office to stop using bicycles

Discussion in 'General Cycling' started by John Burns, Apr 2, 2010.

  1. John Burns

    John Burns Guest

    Saw on the BBC website that the post office is to stop using it's 24,000
    bicycles as they're too dangerous. Not quite the right signals to be
    sending out :-( I wonder how many accidents they've had and what
    training their cyclists get?

    My father worked for the GPO for 28 years, they all had bikes back then.
    They even had GPO branded puncture repairs kits! (which also worked fine
    on kids bikes I'm happy to report)

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    John Burns, Apr 2, 2010
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    Simon Mason Guest

    However:

    "Last night, Royal Mail said it was not phasing out bicycles "completely".
    However, a spokesman refused to say how many bicycles were being retained."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7535912/Traditional-postmans-bike-to-be-scrapped.html
     
    Simon Mason, Apr 2, 2010
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  3. Don't know - and from what I've read they are only 5th in the table
    of accidents so I'm not sure whether there is some ulterior motive
    going on behind this and 'safety' is the stated reason. In some
    locations they probably don't make much sense, in others they are
    probably the best solution for the job - it all depends on the round
    I guess.

    However I would note that the manner in which bikes are used by the
    postman is different to how most normal people use them in that the
    postman stops very frequently as he delivers down each road and may
    have to switch from one side to the other of the road. So I don't
    think that any conclusions can be made about utility or leisure
    cycling based upon any findings about how a postman uses their bike.
     
    Andy Leighton, Apr 2, 2010
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    Derek C Guest

    'Ealth n' Safety Mate, 'Ealth n' bleeding Safety, innit!!!

    Oh God how I despair of the UK nanny state sometimes!

    Derek C
     
    Derek C, Apr 2, 2010
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  5. Andy Leighton twisted the electrons to say:
    When I was there (2002-8), no training but they did give you hivis and a
    helmet. Neither being a H&S thing, merely "uniform".
    They where meant to be experimenting with both electrically assisted
    bikes and Cycle Maximus trikes[1] (and also with electrically assisted
    high capacity trolleys), but that seems to have gone all quiet. (Come to
    think of it, we had some Carry Freedom trailers too at our site. Not
    quite sure what happened to them.)

    As you say, depending on the round different tools make sense. Some of
    the rounds I did where perfectly suitable for doing on a bike - cycle to
    start, park and walk, cycle to bag-drop point, park and walk multiple
    bags, cycle back. You could do that with being dropped off from a van,
    but coordinating the pickup might be awkward.

    [1] http://www.cyclesmaximus.com/RoyalMail1.htm
    http://www.cyclesmaximus.com/RoyalMail2.htm
     
    Alistair Gunn, Apr 2, 2010
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  6. Repeated requests have failed to yield any hard data on the supposed
    problem, but it has been suggested that it's the Post Office's way of
    getting rid of the nuisance of helmet arguments - they have a few
    zealous Liddites who keep agitating for disciplinaries against lidless
    posties, since they managed to get the UCW to get them made
    compulsory, while the posties apparently don't regard cycling as
    dangerous so many don't wear them.

    Guy
     
    Just zis Guy, you know?, Apr 2, 2010
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    Obviously, this is part of a strategy to make their contribution to the
    nation's carbon emissions target.
     
    Simon Brooke, Apr 2, 2010
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  8. since they still do sweeper runs, ie one bag of mail that misses the
    collections, about a 40 mile round trip for 40 letters at most. carbon
    emissions are not high on there list.

    more likely they want to cut costs with reparing bikes etc.

    watching bikes around here, SW london since like most areas you end up
    going to most houses a bike doesn't seem to offer much of a advantage.

    never had bikes in the areas I worked as a postie as the land is too up
    and down.

    roger
     
    Roger Merriman, Apr 3, 2010
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    nmm1 Guest

    That's possible. Another possibility is that there have been complaints
    (and possibly even injuries to others) from them riding illegally on
    the pavement. Around here, that's the norm - not that I have seen them
    endanger anyone, but it IS illegal. And, clearly, the Post Office
    would not want to advertise that as the reason.

    As we all know, blocking cycling lanes by stopping a car in them to
    deliver something is not usually illegal, so that's clearly a better
    strategy.


    Regards,
    Nick Maclaren.
     
    nmm1, Apr 3, 2010
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  10. That must be why they propose to donate the bikes to a place renowned
    for its safer, gentler, more skilled drivers, and better, properly
    manicured, roads.

    Africa

    Jeremy Parker
     
    Jeremy Parker, Apr 6, 2010
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    Mark Guest

    IMHO it's more about saving money. Posties are going to be issued
    with trolleys instead, which can carry far more post.

    Shame it's the classic "the roads are too dangerous" part that has
    been highlighted by the press.
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    Mark, Apr 8, 2010
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  12. That really is a shame. It's going to make some shifts take a lot
    longer, especially those on routes with substantial sections which can
    be cycled but not driven upon (e.g. on some estates). Who is going to
    pay for this effective increase in the work that needs doing? One
    guess.
     
    Guy Cuthbertson, Apr 9, 2010
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  13. highly unlikely (taking longer) unless there was signifigate dead walks.

    it's a money saving drive. pure and simple.

    roger
     
    Roger Merriman, Apr 10, 2010
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