Nazca Fuego

Discussion in 'Cycling Archive' started by Alistair Gunn, Jun 15, 2015.

  1. A while back (many years ago I suspect) either here, or in the other place,
    there was a thread about recumbents in which the Nazca Fuego was discussed.
    (Almost certainly brought up by Peter Clinch of this parish.) In said
    thread I said something like how I'd never really liked the look of the
    Fuego, specifically the unpainted bracket where the rear suspension and the
    seat meet the main section of the frame.

    Well on Saturday I took advantage of the fact that I was in Edinburgh
    anyway to wander over Laid Back Bikes[1] for some opinion & advice, with
    a hopeful side-order of test rides! :) One of those test rides[2] was
    of a Nazca Fuego and I have to say, I wish I'd ridden one *much* sooner!

    I suspect for most people the Fuego is probably a better bike than the
    HPVelotechnik Grasshopper. The Grasshopper might win in terms of outright
    touring ability, and some people might prefer it as it's taller. However in
    every respect that matters to me I think I would've been far better buying
    a Feugo instead of the Grasshopper I went with. :-( Faster, more
    comfortable and somehow more "fun" - all subjective I'll grant you, but I
    think my main point is don't let that bracket put you off!

    Alas I don't think it's better *enough* to justify swapping my
    Grasshopper for one? So my search will have to continue ... Challenge
    Fujin SL1 is a definite candidate, and maybe the Raptobike (though
    currently out of production and so "hen's teeth"). Bacchetta are ruled
    out on the grounds of after-sales support[3], Metabike's interesting as
    is the Nazca Gaucho but I fear both maybe to tall for my bike storage
    space. (Plus the Metabike has carbon forks, and the Gaucho brings plenty
    of kg to the party.)

    To finish, if you're in the Edinburgh area and are interested in
    recumbents then Laid Back Bikes is definitely worth a visit.

    [1] <http://laid-back-bikes.scot/>
    [2] Others being the ICE Sprint 26 and the Nazca Gaucho, plus I sat on a
    Challenge Furai and an M5 CHR.
    [3] Supposedly *very* good in the USA, but my experience in the UK is
    rather different. :-/
     
    Alistair Gunn, Jun 15, 2015
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    Danny Colyer Guest

    FWIW my 700c Meta is about 108cm at the top of the seat (not counting
    the headrest, which is nice to have but not necessary). That's only a
    little higher than the handlebar on my wife's hybrid. The 26" model
    ought to be slightly lower.

    That said, the seat position is very adjustable, so the height could vary.

    Yes, that came as something of a surprise when mine arrived - the test
    bike didn't. David did mention that every time he takes delivery of a
    Meta something will have changed in the frame design since the previous
    delivery.

    I'm more concerned about the tiller and handlebar being aluminium - I'd
    be much happier if they were steel.

    That's full suspension for you. One of my main reasons for choosing a
    bike with 700c wheels was to avoid the need for full suspension.

    +1, though David likes people to make appointments if they want a test
    ride. I made mine several months in advance and planned last year's
    summer holiday around it :-D
     
    Danny Colyer, Jun 15, 2015
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  3. Danny Colyer twisted the electrons to say:
    The cupboard $BIKE would be going in is 114cm wide, and the door is 70cm
    wide. Basically it's stand $BIKE on it's back wheel, wheel it in and
    turn as I go. (When/if I get organised I'll get some kind of
    wall-mounted hook system installed!) Not actually done this with the
    Grasshopper, just my CX bike but recumbents rarely win when it comes to
    "manual handling and lifting"! :)
    Sorry, I meant the Gaucho highracer which is rear suspension only.
     
    Alistair Gunn, Jun 15, 2015
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    Rob Morley Guest

    Does anyone make a 29er high racer yet? :)
     
    Rob Morley, Jun 15, 2015
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  5. In uk.rec.cycling.moderated on Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
    No Bachetta dealer in Oz now so all support is from the USA. It
    hasn't needed much though! A couple of parts which they shipped
    with speed.

    All the work on it is done by a not quite local bike shop (a few
    stops down the train line). Considering the dealer was in Canberra
    which is 3 hours drive away I dunno a lack of dealer support is
    huge! (although lack of test ride may well be)

    I have pulled the trigger on a Schlitter for various reasons, it is
    sitting in the workshop of said NQLBS waiting for them the strip the
    Bacchetta of the various drivetrain and brake parts I upgraded over
    the years.

    The Bacchetta had a close encounter of the unpleasant kind with a
    pothole at speed downhill which tore the front 24" unobtainable rim
    nearly in half. (disc brake upgrade meant I was able to stay
    upright...) Being unable to find a replacement was the final thing to
    buy the Schlitter the main one being sizing. I am so sick of being
    just a little too short of leg for most recumbents.

    I presume a fully carbon bike is well outside your requirements....

    Zebee
    - still pondering the luggage problem. Won't know how to make that
    work until it's together.
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jun 15, 2015
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  6. Zebee Johnstone twisted the electrons to say:
    I got knocked off my Giro 26 back at the end of November 2007. Damage to
    the bike that needed to be dealt with was a bent riser and worn-through
    seat mesh. Getting those out of the UK distributor took me into April
    IIRC!
     
    Alistair Gunn, Jun 15, 2015
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  7. In uk.rec.cycling.moderated on Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:21:32 +0000 (UTC)
    Long time ago...

    When I had problems with the dealer being slow I contacted Bacchetta
    and they were happy to send direct.

    Turned out the dealer wasn't just slow he'd vanished... but on the
    whole they get the overseas problem well enough and will send bits
    when asked.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jun 15, 2015
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    Danny Colyer Guest

    Challenging.

    Our house has a room that, when the house was built, was probably
    intended as a small dining room. When we bought the house DW and I
    agreed that it would be the bike room (the lounge is just about big
    enough to serve as living and dining room).

    To get either recumbent out I have to stand it on the back wheel, wheel
    it through the door and manage a tight turn into the hall. It doesn't
    help that, with a growing family, that room now contains 5 bikes and 7
    unicycles, as well as various wheeled toys and all of my tools.

    The relatively light weight and narrow handlebar (45cm) of the Meta make
    it easier to lift and manoeuvre than the Street Machine, but the much
    bigger front wheel makes the turn into the hall harder.

    Not sure of its relevance to you, but my Meta is about 190cm long
    (excluding cranks). My inside leg is 31". Longer legs might not result
    in a longer bike, as the seat could be moved back a few inches.

    So did I. I haven't looked at the spec for the best part of a year, so
    have doubtless misremembered it.
     
    Danny Colyer, Jun 15, 2015
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    Peter Clinch Guest

    When we were looking for a 'bent for Roos the Grasshopper was initially
    top of the list on spec, so we went over to Kinetics and gave it a
    try... and found it a bit meh. Not actually bad in any way, just
    nothing shouting Ride Me! So the search went on.

    And ended up at Ligfietswinkel in Amsterdam playing on the Toys there.
    The Fuego didn't exist at that point, but the Fiero did, but had been
    ruled out on paper as too sporty over touringy. I had a play anyway,
    loved it immediately and suggested Roos have a go too, which she did,
    and a couple of minutes and one Monster Grin later one month of careful
    comparisons on paper went straight down the tubes.

    She got the "tour" model (this was pre-Laidback, so it was ordered
    straight from NL), and it's been great. Good and low as it's a 20/20
    (about a head lower on the road than my Streetmachine). Won't win any
    light weight awards (certainly not ion "tour" trim), but it's a fine bit
    of kit.

    Pete.
     
    Peter Clinch, Jun 16, 2015
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