Don't try to be nice (not everyone is enjoying the nice weather andhas the same mindset as you).

Discussion in 'Cycling Archive' started by soup, Aug 30, 2015.

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    soup Guest

    I have long held the belief cycling on the far left encourages car
    drivers to try to squeeze past you rather than execute a proper overtake .

    However today, fine sunny Sunday afternoon and I was feeling good ,
    there was a car trying to pass me so I pulled to the left to let him
    past as it was a narrow road (actually an entrance to a 'country park').

    The road was a bit narrow for two cars to pass but nothing dramatic,
    as this road is the entrance to a park the car was only doing about 15
    mph and as it was uphill(ish) I was down to about nine so there followed
    the longest overtake in the history of the world then as the road
    narrowed instead of thinking "ach well stuff you you had your chance"
    and dominating the road again I (trying to be a nice person) pulled even
    further to the left. So far left that I ended up in amongst all the
    grot and mud that had accumulated at the side of this (unkerbed) road,
    as the closeness of the car scared me (in hindsight stopping and having
    a wee rant/swear about unthinking cagers would have seen a better
    outcome). Car went past with nary a toot or a wave and just as I was
    thinking "well cheers wouldn't go amiss" I tried to steer back onto the
    road proper but as I was now cycling along a sunken edge the front wheel
    hit the road edge and went and I tumbled (luckily at slow speed) along
    the bracken and other flora and smacked into a tree. Perhaps the most
    galling part was the car never even stopped to check I was OK (it must
    have been pretty clear to him(?) that I had 'crashed')

    Luckily there seems no lasting damage to the bike (had to sort the
    mudguard stays and put the chain back on the chain rings oh and put the
    computer back on its holder). Damage to me was also pretty light with
    only a small scratch on my cheek from head butting the tree, and a
    slight winding plus one tremendous fright, also lost one of the lenses
    for my eye protectors but after a bit of a search found it and put it
    back (fairly easy as the lenses are meant to be interchangeable). Then
    the eight mile ride home like 'a mouse scared of my own shadow'.

    TLDR :- Dominate your lane don't go all nice and try to let cars squeeze
    past .

    Pic of happening at :-
    soup, Aug 30, 2015
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    Peter Keller Guest

    Actually I think it it is right (and nice) for you to try and let him
    past, when it is safe to do so.
    On the road pictured, I think the most appropriate place would be a
    widening or edge where you could stop and wave him past; such as that
    entrance to the drain (or whatever) on the left of the road in the photo
    you sent.
    Peter Keller, Aug 31, 2015
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    Rob Morley Guest

    Often best to go the other way, so you come back to cross the step at a
    less acute angle. Or just do an emergency stop which I think in this
    situation is less likely to dump you on your ear. Fat knobblies cope
    better too.
    Rob Morley, Aug 31, 2015
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    Peter Clinch Guest

    Hopping the front wheel up over the edge a handy tactic too. The back
    is harder (especially if you're not in SPuDs or have luggage back
    there), but less likely to dump you if it does skid sideways.

    Of course, actually being able to see what's about to take you out is a
    handy precondition...

    Peter Clinch, Sep 1, 2015
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    Ian Jackson Guest

    How annoying. Glad nothing was badly damaged.
    Ian Jackson, Sep 1, 2015
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    Sam Wilson Guest

    I saw that and recognised it immediately, partly guided by the
    description. I've never cycled there (it's too far for a short ride and
    I've never taken longer ones in that direction) but I hope I've been a
    more courteous driver when I've been there by car. Sorry for your

    Sam Wilson, Sep 1, 2015
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    soup Guest

    Thanks a bunch.

    If only everyone when they are driving showed this much courtesy for
    others the roads would be much safer.

    I blame myself for not stopping and letting the car past or totally
    dominating the lane and not allowing anything past, I only blame the
    driver (say) 20% for not shifting road position at all.

    Note :- this is a repost the original did not seem to get through
    soup, Sep 11, 2015
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