And now for something entirely different ...

Discussion in 'Cycling Archive' started by Periander, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Periander

    Periander Guest

    Hello folks,

    Apologies that this isn't about the rights and wrongs of cyclists wearing
    helmets or the compulsory birching of cyclists who run pedestrian crossings
    or anything of that ilk, I know how folks like to idle the hours away here
    chatting about such things but there is actually a serious reason behind
    this post ...

    To assist me with a little research ...

    Does anyone know of any on-line list off the women's GB and/or English
    cycling teams between the 1950s and 1960s ... road racing more than anything
    else but I'll take what's on offer. Mr Google and Mrs Bing between them have
    conspicuously failed to assist.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Periander, Oct 2, 2012
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    bugbear Guest

    IIRC (from Beryl Burton's Biog) there was near-to-no-such thing,
    which is why Beryl was driving herself around.

    BugBear
     
    bugbear, Oct 2, 2012
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  3. Periander

    Periander Guest

    That's a bugger, does the name Doris Greenhalgh (sorry don't know her maiden
    name) mean anything to anyone? She was riding competatively around this
    period.

    .... just in case anyone's wondering both her and her hubby are great family
    friends of my late father and I'm trying to see if I can sort out a bit of a
    reunion.
     
    Periander, Oct 2, 2012
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    D.M. Procida Guest

    There's an article in Rouleur <http://rouleur.cc/issue-33> about Eileen
    Sheridan, who broke numerous long-distance records.

    I don't think you'll find many, if any, racing teams - it seems pretty
    clear that:

    a) the British regarded road-racing as a very suspect continental habit,
    quite unlike the healthful discipline of the time trial

    b) teams were a rather suspect notion too; what mattered was the
    individual and his efforts, though it was quite proper to be supported
    in a Corinthianly amateurish way by his local club

    c) any racing teams would need to ply their trade almost entirely in
    continental Europe, and unfortunately in those days the women were
    needed back home where there were some domestic roles to fill.

    Daniele
     
    D.M. Procida, Oct 2, 2012
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    Peter Clinch Guest

    I don't know, but have you asked British Cycling? If anyone has such a
    list they'd be a good bet, "general enquiries" email is


    Pete.
     
    Peter Clinch, Oct 2, 2012
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    Kim Bolton Guest

    ROFL
     
    Kim Bolton, Oct 2, 2012
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    soup Guest

    That tends to be URC (uk.rec.cycling) This place was set up (IMHO) to
    get away from the suicide bent, helmetless, red light jumping
    freeloaders posts.
     
    soup, Oct 2, 2012
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    Periander Guest

    Bad form to follow up on your own post but rather than reply to everyone
    this is just a quick word of thanks to those who've taken the trouble to
    reply. The British Cycling thingie was very much unknown to me and that's a
    lead that appears well worth following up. Cheers.
     
    Periander, Oct 3, 2012
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    Periander Guest

    You should use your humour more often, when you put the effort in you're
    quite good at it and that very much made me smile but for the sake of
    historical interest and the publishing of what was once a very well known
    route that's as good today as it's ever been ...

    .... I do remember back in the early 70s at the lastest regular road racing
    passed my house on what was then called the "Edgeworth Circuit".

    The start was in Turton, from there southwards on the Bury Road, left onto
    the A476 (Ramsbottom/Bolton Rd - changes name) to Holcombe, then North up
    (and it's a big "up") along Lumb Carr Rd/Helmshore Road, then through
    Helmshore on Holcombe Rd (where I lived and of course where I started from
    if I was out for a jolly), West along Grane Road (more moorland), then left
    along Jackson Heights Rd back down to Turton along Broadhead Rd or if you
    were really hard (as all Lancashire people are and as I once was on my old
    Peugeot) keep going on Jackson Heights to Hoddleston before turning South
    again along the Roman Rd to Turton.

    There used to be several races a year over this route, roads closed and all
    sorts, remember standing outside the house as a child watching the racers go
    by. According to my dad it was a race that had been run for many years and
    road racing generally and of course all without the benefit of Lycra but of
    course with (ducks for cover) those padded leather helmets which went out of
    fashion back in the 80s. By the time I was old enough to ride that route I
    think the races had very largely stopped.

    Anyway as a special treat I go back up to Lancs quite a lot and if anyone
    lives near to the above route I very much recommend it, yes there's more
    traffic nowadays and you have to be especially careful on Holcombe Rd in
    Helmshore itself but the roads are better and the route itself is
    comparatively unspoilt ... and of course if you're in to this fitness fetish
    everyone appears so worked up about nowadays this route has the advantage of
    appearing to the rider to be uphill all the way, even if you go the wrong
    way! Just one of those little miracles of nature.
     
    Periander, Oct 7, 2012
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