an Obree strange word

Discussion in 'General Cycling' started by sixtyplus, Apr 16, 2010.

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    sixtyplus Guest

    In his wonderful book "The Flying Scotsman", on page 111, there is a
    strange word that Google cannot help with.
    The context is ..."the lads called it 'pishrust tubing'..." and the
    rest of the paragraph does not help me.
    So... does anyone know what "pishrust" means?
    If you do know, you might put it on to the page?
    On page 1, GO says "...and our bogie was set on fire" The only
    relevant meaning I can find is that a bogie is a small barrow or truck
    used for carrying coal and it is a northern dialect word. I suppose
    that fits.
    sixtyplus, Apr 16, 2010
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    nmm1 Guest

    That's a new one on me.
    You need a better dictionary! It's a standard railway term. It means
    the unit with a few pairs of wheels on which a railway carriage or
    (sometimes) parts of a locomotive are placed.

    Nick Maclaren.
    nmm1, Apr 16, 2010
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    Rob Morley Guest

    Pish can be used to mean poor quality, rubbish, nonsense. Rust is iron
    oxide. :)
    ITYF that its use is somewhat broader and it can be applied to anything
    resembling a small cart.
    Rob Morley, Apr 16, 2010
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    'Pish' is a west of Scotland word for 'rubbish' or 'very poor'. A
    'bogie' or 'guider' is a a steerable cart made usually with the axles
    of an old pram, on which children sit to go down hills very quickly. I
    think the Sassenach equivalent is 'soapbox cart'?
    Simon Brooke, Apr 16, 2010
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    Peter Clinch Guest

    "Pish" is pretty standard Scots. As "Shite" is to, errrr, a very
    similar word to itself, as is "pish" to a different, very similar
    word to itself (i.e., despite sounding very similar is more jokey
    and typically considered less rude).

    "Not very good", in other words.

    The addition of "rust" would probably give a graphical despcription
    of exactly /why/ it was "pish".

    Peter Clinch, Apr 16, 2010
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    Biggles Guest

    Pishrust sounds like a typical scottish colloquialism to describe an
    item - it's pish (=piss) quality because it rusts easily. The scots are
    very good at inventing words like this.

    A bogie is a scottish term for a child's toy cart - the sort of thing we
    used to lash up from an orange box and a set of pram wheels. "Soapbox"
    is the nearest equivalent.

    Biggles, Apr 16, 2010
  7. Including one built for or by a child to play in.
    Percy Picacity, Apr 16, 2010
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    nmm1 Guest

    Well, maybe. It could also be tubing that had already rusted, or
    tubing that was not stronger than stuff that was rusted through,
    or ....

    Nick Maclaren.
    nmm1, Apr 16, 2010
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    thirty-six Guest

    "pish poor" was a term I've used from 30+y ago as a Lancastrian,
    meaning a product of an inferior grade (too generous). A bogie to me
    is a lightweigth 4 wheeler which can be pushed, towed carrying goods
    such as glass or plywood or ridden on downhill if so dsigned.
    "soapbpox racer" is an Amrican term if I'm not mistaken. It was
    certainly alien to me, the term used by me was "go-kart".
    thirty-six, Apr 17, 2010
  10. Which reminds me: a grey-bearded storage guru speaks of the outside of
    the disk (where sectors run fastest under the heads) as the "fastest

    Just zis Guy, you know?, Apr 17, 2010
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    sixtyplus Guest

    Thanks for all the above answers. Now I know. It is a bit weird that
    no one has ever used the word before on the 'net?
    And my best wishes from Mangakino, New Zealand, to Graeme if he reads
    sixtyplus, Apr 21, 2010
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    Cycling Director

    Mar 22, 2022
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    Hi there. Wrong I’m afraid. Pishrust meant corrosion caused by urine, pish (to urinate) rust (metal corrosion). The story goes there was a bag of tubbing stood in the messy toilet in the cycle shop. When the guys used the loo standing up the splashes would land on the tubes and they rusted that’s why they had no qualms about giving Obree the tubing for free.
    Cycling Director, Mar 22, 2022
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