Advice please - www.bike24.com and dynamo lights

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by al Mossah, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. al Mossah

    al Mossah Guest

    Some toerag nicked my bike. New one is on its way, but I noe need to
    "bling it up". Among other things, I need a new LED front dynamo
    light. My previous Basta LED one was brilliant, but now difficult to
    get hold of.

    Its replacement appears to be the Basta Sprint, seen here:
    http://www.bike24.com/p213270.html
    and available in Germany.

    Has anyone had any experience of buying from www.bike24.com? Also,
    can anyone recommend the light, or an alternative?
     
    al Mossah, Aug 17, 2010
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  2. I've bought quite a few bits from Bike24 (mostly dynamo lights), usually
    delivered within a few days or so, no problems. I would recommend them.

    Though no experience of that Basta light.
    I would recommend the B&M IQ Fly or IQ Cyo lights, though they cost
    quite a bit more than that Basta. Or the B&M Lyt looks interesting, and
    is a bit cheaper.
     
    Craig Wallace, Aug 17, 2010
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  3. al Mossah

    bugbear Guest

    I have used bike24 once, with no problems.

    No comment on the light.

    BugBear
     
    bugbear, Aug 18, 2010
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    Simon Brooke Guest

    H'mmm! That's a hell of a lot cheaper than any other dynamo headlamp I've
    seen, shame it's so fugly. Also available from Rose Versand, from whom
    I've had very good service.

    http://roseversand.com/bike-parts/lighting/dynamo-operated/front-lights/
    basta-sprint-steady-switch.html?cid=156&detail=10&detail2=23390
     
    Simon Brooke, Aug 18, 2010
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  5. al Mossah twisted the electrons to say:
    I've ordered several things from bike24 over the past year and a half,
    and not had any problems. Can't comment on the light in question, as
    I've only got experience of B&M stuff and the Edelux.
     
    Alistair Gunn, Aug 18, 2010
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  6. al Mossah

    al Mossah Guest

    Thanks all for the advice. I have duly ordered from bike24 the light
    (without the auto-switch, so only €17.90, & a B&M dynamo (unbelievably
    cheap compared with UK prices). I'll let you know my views on them.
     
    al Mossah, Aug 18, 2010
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    Phil W Lee Guest

    I'd rate Bike24 as excellent to buy from, having done so on several
    occasions.
    I'd be looking at a Busch + Müller Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus
    http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=12804;page=1;menu=1000,5,66;mid=39;pgc=0
    As it's a FAR better light, and still has the switch and standlight.
    It is a bit more expensive, but when you consider the life of a dynamo
    headlight, it's pennies a month difference.
     
    Phil W Lee, Aug 19, 2010
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  8. al Mossah

    Andrew Price Guest

    It's a well-established and reputable company in Dresden.
    Agreed. I'd have no hesitation in ordering from either.
     
    Andrew Price, Aug 19, 2010
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  9. al Mossah

    al Mossah Guest

    Hmm.. it's €54 compared with €18, which in my book is three times the
    price.

    It's not just the cost per day, it's the attractiveness to the
    aforementioned low-life-scumbags.

    Anyway, I'll report back.
     
    al Mossah, Aug 19, 2010
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    Mark Guest

    I have no experience of this particular company but I would be wary of
    buying things from an non-UK company. European consumer rights are
    somewhat inferior to our own and you might have trouble if the product
    goes wrong.

    I have certainly experienced this issue with companies based in France
    and on the Channel Islands.
    --
    (\__/) M.
    (='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
    (")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
    posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
    everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
     
    Mark, Aug 19, 2010
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  11. al Mossah

    bugbear Guest

    I'd expect Channel Islands to be a special case;
    "real companies" don't work there, only tax-dodgers.

    I would pretty much expect poor backup from
    such a demographic.

    BugBear
     
    bugbear, Aug 19, 2010
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    Nigel Cliffe Guest

    Bike24 are **much** better than some UK retailers when something goes wrong.

    They made a mistake and sent a wrong part (incorrect PCD on a chainring).
    They refunded the return postage and sent the replacement promptly.

    Though UK distance selling regulations state that the retailer should refund
    postage in such circumstances, I have sometimes failed to get that back.


    I would use them again, any company can make a mistake; those that put their
    hand up and correct it promptly are the ones who get my repeat business.



    - Nigel
     
    Nigel Cliffe, Aug 19, 2010
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  13. That's a LITTLE unfair, but only a little.
    Yes. As I used to say about the IT companies with an Isle of Man
    address, the place was settled by pirates over a thousand years
    ago, and little has changed. Even the honest companies were a
    disaster area for support.


    Regards,
    Nick Maclaren.
     
    Nick Maclaren, Aug 19, 2010
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  14. In
    Amazon have an offshoot in The Channel Islands and 7day Shop, who AFAIK have
    a good reputation, are based in Guernsey.
     
    Dave Larrington, Aug 19, 2010
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    Sandy Guest

    I use the 7day Shop a lot and have had no problems.
     
    Sandy, Aug 19, 2010
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  16. Exactly. The only reason Amazon have an offshoot in the Channel
    Islands is to dodge VAT on CDs and the like.
     
    Julian Bradfield, Aug 19, 2010
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    Ian Jackson Guest

    European consumer rights are in some respects inferior - the law on
    faulty goods has a shorter time limit for claims, for example - but
    it's not really enough weaker to be worrying about. And many of the
    best (from the consumer's point of view) parts of our law came via
    Europe - such as the Distance Selling Regulations.

    The real difficulty is that if something goes wrong it will be more
    difficult to enforce your rights at all because you'll have to deal
    with foreign courts etc.
    The Channel Islands are not part of "Europe" for these purposes. They
    are not covered by European Data Protection or consumer legislation.
    So for example they are allowed to spam you much more than European
    companies are.

    I would avoid ordering from businesses in the Channel Islands
    whereever possible, for those reasons and because they're generally
    essentially engaging in tax avoidance which I think is unethical.
    I'll use them only on the same basis I would use a North American
    supplier: if there wasn't a sensible alternative for the same goods.
     
    Ian Jackson, Aug 19, 2010
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    Mark Guest

    There are a few companies of "good repute" there. A well known
    consumer magazine particularly recommends one based in the Channel
    Islands (although I don't).
    --
    (\__/) M.
    (='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
    (")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
    posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
    everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
     
    Mark, Aug 19, 2010
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  19. Julian Bradfield twisted the electrons to say:
    And long may it continue, the less VAT I spent on CDs and the like the
    more cash I'll have available to spend on bicycles!
     
    Alistair Gunn, Aug 20, 2010
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    Simon Mason Guest

    Yes, so do I. Home of the VAT free battery which will go up to 20% next
    year.
     
    Simon Mason, Aug 21, 2010
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