_Bike_ magazine's alp race ...

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Alistair Gunn, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. In the current (i.e. October!) issue of Bike magazine (it's a motorbike
    magazine) they've got a race between a motorbike and a bicycle.
    Specifically it's a race *down* L'Alpe d'Huez! The motorbike won in the
    end, but winning by 28 seconds when you've got 150hp and the cyclist has
    ~0.5 isn't exactly a huge lead!
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...
     
    Alistair Gunn, Sep 16, 2011
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  2. Alistair Gunn

    Simon Mason Guest

    On Sep 16, 5:49 pm, Alistair Gunn <> wrote:
    > In the current (i.e. October!) issue of Bike magazine (it's a motorbike
    > magazine) they've got a race between a motorbike and a bicycle.
    > Specifically it's a race *down* L'Alpe d'Huez!  The motorbike won in the
    > end, but winning by 28 seconds when you've got 150hp and the cyclist has
    > ~0.5 isn't exactly a huge lead!
    > --
    > These opinions might not even be mine ...
    > Let alone connected with my employer ...


    A pro cyclist may have even beaten the motorcyclist as power will not
    really be an issue, more the ablility to handle the bike at its
    "terminal velocity" without going off piste.

    --
    Simon Mason
     
    Simon Mason, Sep 16, 2011
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    Jolly polly Guest

    "Alistair Gunn" <> wrote in message
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    > In the current (i.e. October!) issue of Bike magazine (it's a motorbike
    > magazine) they've got a race between a motorbike and a bicycle.
    > Specifically it's a race *down* L'Alpe d'Huez! The motorbike won in the
    > end, but winning by 28 seconds when you've got 150hp and the cyclist has
    > ~0.5 isn't exactly a huge lead!


    If they both freewheeled down, it would have been a fairer race
     
    Jolly polly, Sep 17, 2011
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    Adam Lea Guest

    On 16/09/11 17:49, Alistair Gunn wrote:
    > In the current (i.e. October!) issue of Bike magazine (it's a motorbike
    > magazine) they've got a race between a motorbike and a bicycle.
    > Specifically it's a race *down* L'Alpe d'Huez! The motorbike won in the
    > end, but winning by 28 seconds when you've got 150hp and the cyclist has
    > ~0.5 isn't exactly a huge lead!


    Raw power is not the deciding factor in a race like that, it comes down
    to how well you can take the corners, which is dependant on the handling
    characteristics of the bike as well as the skill of the rider.
     
    Adam Lea, Sep 18, 2011
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  5. Alistair Gunn

    Guest

    In article <>,
    Adam Lea <> wrote:
    >On 16/09/11 17:49, Alistair Gunn wrote:
    >
    >> In the current (i.e. October!) issue of Bike magazine (it's a motorbike
    >> magazine) they've got a race between a motorbike and a bicycle.
    >> Specifically it's a race *down* L'Alpe d'Huez! The motorbike won in the
    >> end, but winning by 28 seconds when you've got 150hp and the cyclist has
    >> ~0.5 isn't exactly a huge lead!

    >
    >Raw power is not the deciding factor in a race like that, it comes down
    >to how well you can take the corners, which is dependant on the handling
    >characteristics of the bike as well as the skill of the rider.


    And, equally much, how large a risk he is prepared to take.


    Regards,
    Nick Maclaren.
     
    , Sep 18, 2011
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  6. twisted the electrons to say:
    > In article <>,
    > Adam Lea <> wrote:
    > >On 16/09/11 17:49, Alistair Gunn wrote:
    > >> In the current (i.e. October!) issue of Bike magazine (it's a motorbike
    > >> magazine) they've got a race between a motorbike and a bicycle.
    > >> Specifically it's a race *down* L'Alpe d'Huez! The motorbike won in the
    > >> end, but winning by 28 seconds when you've got 150hp and the cyclist has
    > >> ~0.5 isn't exactly a huge lead!

    > >Raw power is not the deciding factor in a race like that, it comes down
    > >to how well you can take the corners, which is dependant on the handling
    > >characteristics of the bike as well as the skill of the rider.

    > And, equally much, how large a risk he is prepared to take.


    Indeed ... My peak downhill speed in the Austria Alps was about 60kmh,
    because beyond that the turbulence from my glasses made my eyes water so
    much I could no longer accurately see! There's also the "how hot are your
    rims getting?" factor - decending Grossglockner in 2010 made the front
    rim on my racebike too hot to touch, and that was with me sitting up on
    the tops of the bars for maximum drag and running the hub dynamo (because
    as Tesco say "every little helps"!).
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...
     
    Alistair Gunn, Sep 19, 2011
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    Clive George Guest

    On 19/09/2011 16:26, Alistair Gunn wrote:

    > Indeed ... My peak downhill speed in the Austria Alps was about 60kmh,
    > because beyond that the turbulence from my glasses made my eyes water so
    > much I could no longer accurately see!


    Last weekend we were descending Fleet Moss with a tailwind - and it was
    a windy day. I noticed on the shallow descent at the top we were doing
    68 kph without trying :)

    > There's also the "how hot are your
    > rims getting?" factor - decending Grossglockner in 2010 made the front
    > rim on my racebike too hot to touch, and that was with me sitting up
    > on the tops of the bars for maximum drag and running the hub dynamo
    > (because as Tesco say "every little helps"!).


    BTDT, have the extra brake on the tandem for that reason. Though on big
    alpine descents I've often not used it - they're often shallow enough to
    not cook things.
     
    Clive George, Sep 19, 2011
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  8. Clive George twisted the electrons to say:
    > On 19/09/2011 16:26, Alistair Gunn wrote:
    > > Indeed ... My peak downhill speed in the Austria Alps was about 60kmh,
    > > because beyond that the turbulence from my glasses made my eyes water so
    > > much I could no longer accurately see!

    > Last weekend we were descending Fleet Moss with a tailwind - and it was
    > a windy day. I noticed on the shallow descent at the top we were doing
    > 68 kph without trying :)


    I'd probably have done better with proper cycling glasses (i.e. a more
    wrap-around design) rather than just using my oridinary classes. OTOH,
    using them meant I tended to keep the speed down a bit - by the time my
    eyes started to water it was time to hit the brakes for the next corner
    anwyay!

    > > There's also the "how hot are your
    > > rims getting?" factor - decending Grossglockner in 2010 made the front
    > > rim on my racebike too hot to touch, and that was with me sitting up
    > > on the tops of the bars for maximum drag and running the hub dynamo
    > > (because as Tesco say "every little helps"!).

    > BTDT, have the extra brake on the tandem for that reason. Though on big
    > alpine descents I've often not used it - they're often shallow enough to
    > not cook things.


    When I was coming down Grossglockner it was after cycling up it in the
    Glocknerkoenig, so I suspect I will still feeling a bit competitive with
    the other riders on the way down! :)
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...
     
    Alistair Gunn, Sep 20, 2011
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